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Linux Gaming@lemmy.worldbymr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml
17 hours

Discord is rolling out global shortcut support (e.g. Push to Talk) on Wayland for Linux users, live on Canary now and stable next week.

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https://x.com/coral9000/status/2110443700522537193

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1 hour

      Still please don’t use it to host your source code. Or to communicate critical info.

      • zer0bitz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4 hours

        Been waiting for this for a long time.

        • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          6 hours

          Oh my god. Push to talk.

          :o

          Holy fuck.

          Linux didn’t have the most basic voice chat function up to now??? :O

          They STILL don’t???

          What the actual

          Checks original release date for ventrilo

            • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
              6 hours

              It was an issue with Wayland. Before that we had X11, where global shortcuts wasn’t an issue.

                • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  5 hours

                  Apple phones used to have headphone jacks, removable batteries, and expandable memory.

                    • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                      5 hours

                      How is this relevant to our discussion?

                        • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                          4 hours

                          They lost everything, you lost the shortcuts to everything

                            • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                              4 hours

                              We didn’t lost shortcuts to everything. It’s only about global shortcuts, all other still work. And given the Wayland global shortcuts are now functional and officially supported, its not the same situation anymore. The difference to iPhones is, that you cannot do anything about it on iPhone. On Wayland however desktops environments such as KDE, GNOME and Hyperland could implement a custom variant (or the draft version of the portal) and have it functional; it was just not a standard.

                              So no, the situation is not entirely comparable. We are not at mercy by one single company.

                        • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                          5 hours

                          Ahhh, blame it on Wayland. I see how it is.

                            • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                              5 hours

                              You know that the Wayland portal for global shortcuts took 10 years discussions before they finally settled in, right? Off course it is to blame the Wayland devs (those responsible for this portal), not Discord.

                                • Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                  3 hours

                                  Portals are dbus actually. a different IPC mechanism.

                          • MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zipEnglish
                            6 hours

                            Meh, I already have a global mute shortcut. I have a keyboard shortcut for this script I found somewhere that toggles mic audio capture in ALSA.

                            #!/bin/bash

                            mic_on=$(amixer get Capture | grep '\[on\]')

                            if [ "$mic_on" = "" ] ; then

                            amixer set Capture toggle && paplay /usr/share/sounds/ocean/stereo/device-added.oga

                            else

                            amixer set Capture toggle && paplay /usr/share/sounds/ocean/stereo/device-removed.oga

                            fi

                              • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                6 hours

                                This will mute all applications. While a workaround for your setup, on other use cases it wouldn’t work if the user wants to mute a specific application only.

                              • ulkesh@piefed.socialEnglish
                                8 hours

                                That only took a decade to get done. Good job!

                                  • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                    6 hours

                                    To be fair, it wasn’t the fault of Discord this time. The Wayland developers took their time, because they couldn’t agree (until now).

                                  • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    9 hours

                                    FINALLY

                                      • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                        6 hours

                                        AT LAST

                                      • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
                                        17 hours

                                        I’d recommend Stoat because they won’t rape you for all the personal data they can.

                                          • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                            5 hours

                                            App looks very similar too. But friends, other devs and communities aren’t using it. Their privacy agreements seems to be much better than Discord, especially because their servers are located in Europe. But one should still understand this is not entirely private either. Note, I am not dunking on this service, just want to remember people to read privacy notices:

                                            We do use certain service providers to process your data on our behalf.

                                            Law & Order: We may disclose your information to third parties only if such disclosure is absolutely necessary to comply with a valid legal process, protect any person from death or serious injury, prevent fraud or abuse, or protect our rights, property, safety and interest.

                                            If you wish to request deletion of any information stored on our servers … Exceptions apply for the third-party service providers used to process your data as described in the service supplement.

                                            We may also process your personal data to comply with our legal obligations, to protect our legitimate interests or the interests of others.

                                            - https://stoat.chat/legal/privacy

                                            An alternative could also be Matrix, which at least is decentralized: https://matrix.org/

                                            • Boo! Haunted House!@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                              15 hours

                                              I’d recommend Fluxer over Stoat. Seems to be gaining more users and traction in a fraction of Stoat’s time.

                                                • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                  8 hours

                                                  Trying to get my friends to try Fluxer as well. 🫠 Maybe one day. I’m refusing discord though, so when they play with me they are forced to talk to me using Steam’s voice chat.

                                                  • aksdb@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                    9 hours

                                                    I recommend Haven if your focus (!) is self hosting. Just a single container.

                                                    Chatto is also quite interesting (especially architecturally), but I dislike event sourcing without ability to technically prune old stuff. Also it’s closer to Slack than Discord.

                                                    • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comEnglish
                                                      12 hours

                                                      fluxer.lemmy.world is still returning a 404

                                                    • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comEnglish
                                                      15 hours

                                                      then where’s stoat.sdf.org? 🤣

                                                        • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
                                                          15 hours

                                                          The lights are barely kept on for our Lemmy instance, I don’t expect a Stoat server anytime soon…

                                                            • ルルㇲ@retrofed.comEnglish
                                                              15 hours

                                                              Then maybe they should take a massive bankloan🤣😂

                                                        • dusk@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                          17 hours

                                                          discord and twitter…

                                                            • Voytrekk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                                                              11 hours

                                                              If they enjoy discord, they are likely okay with Twitter. At best you would see Discord on Bluesky.

                                                                • dusk@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                  11 hours

                                                                  bluesky aka blue twitter

                                                                • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                  9 hours

                                                                  deleted by creator

                                                                    • dusk@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                      9 hours

                                                                      pizza and pineapple

                                                                        • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                          8 hours

                                                                          Delicious.

                                                                          Also chicken pizza with curry and banana. 😋

                                                                    • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                      16 hours

                                                                      Can’t wait to see how this will result in another massive leak of personal data that they totally don’t retain.

                                                                        • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                          9 hours

                                                                          What has this anything to do with leaking personal data? This is about the global shortcuts, that can be used while your operating system focus is on another application. This is a long standing issue on Wayland and just recently got solved I think. And Discord being one of the first to make use of this new Wayland “feature” is absurd (in a good way). So I don’t understand where you coming from with this statement.

                                                                            • dusk@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                              9 hours

                                                                              https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=discord+data+leak

                                                                                • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                  8 hours

                                                                                  What exactly do you want tell me with that? I should search for data leaks through a search engine? This does not address my point whatsoever. We are talking about global shortcuts protocol from Wayland here, has nothing to do with data leaks: https://flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-portal/docs/doc-org.freedesktop.portal.GlobalShortcuts.html

                                                                                    • dusk@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                      8 hours

                                                                                      “What exactly do you want tell me with that? I should” click on those links?

                                                                                      I’m guessing their point was to do with the 1st word in the title of the thread.

                                                                                        • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                          8 hours

                                                                                          But your link does not address my issue, you are talking about data leaks. But the global shortcuts on Wayland has nothing to do with Discord dataleaks that happened in the past. You are conflicting two different topics here. Click the link I provided (its not a search link, its an actual result) and read through to understand what global shortcuts are.

                                                                                            • dusk@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                              8 hours

                                                                                              I’m not qualified to address your issue.

                                                                                                • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                                  8 hours

                                                                                                  This has nothing to do with data leaks. Global shortcuts just mean that if you focus on a different application, then you can still control the application in background with shortcuts like Ctrl+1. That’s all. This changes nothing about data collection or data leaking.

                                                                                    • ferret@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                                      8 hours

                                                                                      I am quite curious what the mechanism for that will be

                                                                                        • flying_sheep@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                          7 hours

                                                                                          XDG Global shortcuts portal? Has existed and been supported by plasma and gnome for a while https://flatpak.github.io/xdg-desktop-portal/docs/doc-org.freedesktop.portal.GlobalShortcuts.html

                                                                                            • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                              5 hours

                                                                                              Hyperland also did that if I’m right. They supported an alpha version of the global shortcuts. Nobody knew if this is the final form or not. Global shortcuts are official since 1 month or so, see https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/2142 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/525

                                                                                          • determinist@kbin.earth
                                                                                            16 hours

                                                                                            I haven’t used discord for a couple of years. got an email yesterday informing me that unless I log in soon, my account will be deleted.

                                                                                            …oh no

                                                                                            I’m going to let them delete it, saves me having to

                                                                                              • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                2 hours

                                                                                                Deleted my reddit account only to find my comments were still there. So I’m guessing Discord messages will still be there - I wonder what happens to servers with no admin.

                                                                                                • dragon-donkey3374@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                                                  14 hours

                                                                                                  Why do something yourself when someone is more than willing to do it for you!

                                                                                                    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                                                      6 hours

                                                                                                      There’s no way these companies actually delete anything, ever. You can probably still get myspace pictures, and that company was before Facebook.

                                                                                                  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                                                    12 hours

                                                                                                    When I need to check something on Discord I do it with a browser anyway, I tried installing it on linux but every time I would run it I would get a demand to manually install a new binary because there was an update, and I don’t want it having that level of access to my computer anyway.

                                                                                                      • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                        12 hours

                                                                                                        It used to do that for one of my devices, but it has since stopped, no idea what to say to the access though.

                                                                                                      • drolex@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                                                                                                        15 hours

                                                                                                        Wow and to think I could have gone without knowing that and that it would have had absolutely no impact on my life whatsoever. Crazy. Makes you think. About burritos or something. Certainly not about Discord on Linux though.

                                                                                                        • yardratianSoma@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                                                          15 hours

                                                                                                          too little, too late

                                                                                                          • chocrates@piefed.worldEnglish
                                                                                                            14 hours

                                                                                                            does screen share work on Wayland yet?

                                                                                                              • Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                                10 hours

                                                                                                                Yeah, has for over a year now.

                                                                                                                • otter@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                                                  13 hours

                                                                                                                  It does for my setup. I’m on a not too crazy install of Arch with KDE for my DE and I have discord installed with flatpak. It’s been at least 3 months with no issues for me.

                                                                                                                    • Voytrekk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                                                                                                                      12 hours

                                                                                                                      I feel like it’s been working for almost 2 years at this point for me. The only issue I have is it shares all audio instead of just the application I’m sharing.

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