• He found that while the coffee maker had generated 1TB of traffic, most of it stayed within his parents’ home network rather than being sent over the internet

  • It’s probably running a proxy server so the company can sell your internet connection to the AI scrapers.

    • Or vibecoded firmware that is sending every piece of telemetry Claude decided it needed to some hard coded local ip address and NO HUMAN has ever looked at the code or the network traffic.

  • I cannot think of any way a coffee massive could be improved by connecting it to the Internet.

    • You mean you dont need your machine to tell some ad brokers to contact you about needing to buy more coffee soon?

    • 4 hours

      I can only think of negative things that could result frankly. WTF.

    • 5 hours

      I guess some kind of home automation setup could start coffee brewing when you wake up or just before you get home.

      It does seem like a pretty marginal benefit.

      That being said, I have a hard time understanding why so many people own other IoT things, say, smart speakers. Like, I just don’t see the problem that they’re solving.

      • 4 hours

        I remember having a coffee machine that worked on a timer, like 25 years ago, it didn’t need the internet

      • I’d love my hifi to have the possibility to be controlled from say my phone, because sometimes it’d be neat. But that’s about it. I actually set it up but it’s more of a hassle than a benefit so I just dropped it.

        If it wasn’t for all the snooping and crap, we’d already have a super home control system, but today is not yet the day…

        • 34 minutes

          It’s not the snooping, it’s companies making their own incompatible proprietary system and jealously guarding it to force you to only buy their stuff, except everybody else is doing the same thing so the actual result is that getting things working together and keeping it all working is a pain in the ass.

      • In my case, throwing alarms on it instead of my phone…

        Saves the room for an alarm clock and my ass in case the phone is out of battery.

        Also controlling music via voice while cooking/with dirty hands or from the phone…

        All of this said, my speaker isn’t smart yet, maybe I’ll try 1an IR bridge tho. But these use-cases should be achievable with homeassistant

  • 5 hours

    This might be the best example of a non-news story I’ve ever read.

    It literally was nothing.

      • 24 minutes

        Probably broadcasting to try and find a phone running the control app, except a software bug set the broadcast delay to zero so it was sending thousands of broadcasts per second.

  • Then don’t buy “smart” appliances, none of them need to tell that they are done with washing or what the temperature is in the fridge all the goddamn time.

    “Smart” appliances don’t make your home “smart”, it just means you’re stupid and your brain has rotted away to the point of you not being able to manage your own goddamn household!

    • Certain things being remotely controllable is great. Garage door opener, thermostat, some lights, doorbell camera.

      Fridge, toaster, coffee maker, washer/dryer? Completely pointless.

      • Washer/dryer getting their signal to start from an outside source according to electricity price (with a dynamic plan) or weather (with your own solar) actually makes sense. I really don’t care when it does my laundry as long as it’s done between me leaving the house in the morning and coming back in the evening.

        The main point is that even smart appliances barely ever need their own connection to the internet. Getting (meaningful) communication from inside your home network (including from the one device that acts as your access point from the outside that has a connection) is absolutely enough.

      • 3 hours

        It is not pointless, the point is to spy on our dumbasses.

    • While the consumer carries blame, more of it goes to these data mining companies

    • 5 hours

      I don’t want a smart TV, but there’s only a couple non-smart brands left, and neither of them seem to have the best quality product on the market.

    • Fridge temperature sensors are super useful to notice if you accidentally left the door open.

      Similarly, sensors in a coffee machine are useful to detect limescale buildup, water level, etc.

      The issue isn’t the data but the fact that these “smart” devices aren’t local-first.

    • An aeropress and electric kettle is the way to go, quick and super easy to press out the grind, then a quick rinse and you’re done cleaning

    • The video is missing that in cowboy coffee you should add coffee untill a horse shoe floats (but seriously, he’s pouring it all down the drain??).