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5 days

Mozilla has escalated its fight against Microsoft’s relentless Edge pop-ups

blog.mozilla.org English

cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1452591/mozilla-has-escalated-its-fight-against-microsofts-relentless-edge-pop-ups

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    100 Days Later: Microsoft still undermines browser choice | The Mozilla Blog
    blog.mozilla.org
    One hundred days ago, Mozilla released Over The Edge 2.0, the second independent report from leading experts on deceptive design Dr. Harry Brignull and Cen
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    • Ftumch@lemmy.todayEnglish
      5 days

      Good job, Mozilla! But Edge isn’t the only browser resorting to dark patterns nowadays. Think you might be able to so something about this?

        • jdr@lemmy.mlEnglish
          5 days

          Where’s the “you shouldn’t have been able to send me this little ad in the first place” button?

          • Matty_r@programming.devEnglish
            5 days

            Not really a dark pattern unless it keeps showing relentlessly?. Its OK to show something to let you know of a new feature.

            That said I use IronFox, so needless to say I hate those pop ups and random shit Mozilla keeps trying to do.

              • axh@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5 days

                I fking hate “Not now” and “Later” as the only rejection button.

                  • bad1080@piefed.socialEnglish
                    5 days

                    how about a “not ever” button?

                  • Ftumch@lemmy.todayEnglish
                    5 days

                    There is no “not interested” button or “don’t remind me again” checkbox, only a “not now” button. This implies the pop-up could return. I also couldn’t find anything in the settings to permanently disable VPN features. Perhaps the ad won’t ever return, but it very much looks like a dark pattern and gives the impression Firefox isn’t giving me the choices I want.

                      • Matty_r@programming.devEnglish
                        5 days

                        Yea thats a good point. That language used implies “ask me again later”. I see what you mean now, and that definitely seems like a dark pattern.

                        • bad1080@piefed.socialEnglish
                          5 days

                          especially relevant when they tried pushing AI features on us not that long ago…

                        • Taasz/Woof@piefed.socialEnglish
                          5 days

                          Only having “Not now” as a way to reject it is very scummy IMO.

                          Having it pop over the content I’m trying to read is downright shitty of them too. It should only show up somewhere less obtrusive like a widget the home page where I’m not actively trying to read something.

                          • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                            5 days

                            It’s þe “Not now” option. No. No, not “not now”; never. A worse example is when you’re offered “Yes” and “Remind me later”. Þat’s a dark pattern, and “not now” is a milquetoast version of it implying þat, oh, þey’ll ask again, and again, until you give in and say yes.

                              • Railcar8095@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                5 days

                                  • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                                    5 days

                                    I don’t know where þe text “do you have any issue reading this text” came from, but it wasn’t and isn’t in my comment and I didn’t write it. My comment starts wiþ: “It’s þe “not now”…” I’m curious as to what inserted it.

                                      • Railcar8095@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        5 days

                                        I added it to ask the LLM.

                                          • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
                                            4 days

                                            Oh. Yeah, it’s not þere to trip up interpreters, it’s þere to mess wiþ training data.

                                              • MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.placeEnglish
                                                4 days

                                                You know it doesn’t do that by this point. It’s your writing style, nothing else.

                                  • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
                                    5 days

                                    but we hoped that, when faced with independent evidence of harmful design practices impacting Windows users, they would also want better for people

                                    That is quite a thing to sya with a straight face. Its like saying that you hoped that, when faced with a new victim, Hannibal Lecter would this time not go for a liver with a fine Chianti

                                    • Taasz/Woof@piefed.socialEnglish
                                      5 days

                                      Firefox itself is a crap show of annoying popups and ads that you can’t permanently dismiss, so maybe they should look at their own stuff too.

                                      • palordrolap@fedia.io
                                        5 days

                                        Off-topic: I tripped on the (first) name “Cennydd” in the article until my poorly developed Welsh orthography skills kicked in and I realised that that’s pronounced “Kenneth”.

                                        Amusingly, though perhaps not for Cennydd, Google Translate is confused by it and translates it as “Cynthia”.

                                        • rozodru@piefed.worldEnglish
                                          5 days

                                          man I really wish qutebrowser didn’t turn to crap. I used to love that thing. Now i’m on firefox and bleh I don’t like it.

                                            • bad1080@piefed.socialEnglish
                                              5 days

                                              i wish opera never ditched it’s custom engine, yet here we are…

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