• brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10 months

    Do folks enjoy Starfield these days?

    Or 76?

    I’ve been playing BGS since Oblivion, and my experience was:

    • 76 was boring, even with coop. That’s saying something. The world was interesting, but the main and side (fetch) quests were the dullest, buggiest things that kept trying to sell us some anti grind stuff; and this was well after launch.

    • Starfield was… well, even more boring. It felt like Fallout 3 with all the jank, 10X the production budget, 100X the graphics requirements (as smooth as a cactus on my 3090), yet somehow, none of the charm. I only played for a bit, but I don’t remember a single character name. Whereas I can still recall little side quests from Oblivion and FO3. Quirks persisted all the way from Oblivion, yet all the fun bugs were patched out. Basically, ME: Andromeda was better in every way.

    But, you know, whatever floats peoples boats. I’m curious if these games have grown a following over whatever I was missing.

    • ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zipEnglish
      10 months

      I recently picked up Fallout 4. My first Bethesda game, I’m a seasoned gamer, and just got a new PC. It honestly was the most unpleasant gaming experience I can remember. Surely, if this is my fourth time dying trying to leave this area that I got stuck in surrounded by high unkillable monsters, my loading screen will take less than a minute, right? My computer can run Control at 144fps, but can’t load all of Fallout 4’s shades of brown before I get bored.

    • radiouser@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
      10 months

      While its disastrous launch is legendary, I believe Fallout 76 has finally outgrown its bad reputation. I purchased it on sale a few years ago and ultimately sank hundreds of surprisingly enjoyable hours into Appalachia.

      It reminds me of No Man’s Sky - a testament to a development team that listened, worked tirelessly, and transformed a broken foundation into a stable, polished, and content-rich experience. I don’t recall ever spending an additional penny on the game either, so for the price of a coffee, it stands as one of my best value-for-money gaming purchases.

        • verdi@feddit.orgEnglish
          10 months

          Don’t, get one of the old ones instead. In particular the first one, it’s easy to run, you can play offline and it’s actually a good game, unlike 76.

          If you want a really good game and want to have co-op and building (which 76 barely achieves) get Valheim. It’s a better game than 76 in all aspects but graphical fidelity.

          Also, here’s a tale from steam reviews to show you how UNLIKE NMS Fallout76 and bethesda are!

          “Here’s a tale for the 21st century.

          Bethesda launches a game called Fallout 76, forces you to play it through their crappy launcher during the era of mindless corporate zeal for advertising in-house IPs to a captive audience

          Bethesda’s crap launcher, being useless and annoying, is later abandoned

          Bethesda tells all those who bought the game that they can no longer use the launcher to play; instead, you have to migrate the game to Steam (where it should have been released in the first place)

          Bethesda then tells you that, sorry, some of that content you bought for the game? We can’t migrate that. So you have to choose: either you get the game (which you bought) for ‘free’ on Steam, and give up the extra content you paid for, or you repurchase the game on Steam (and give up the content you paid for)

          After repeated attempts to explain to Bethesda that this is their fault; that they insisted gamers use their launcher, which everyone knew was useless and anti-consumer; after pointing out that they never explained that you might some day have to choose between purchases made for the game and the game itself; and that you’re willing to accept the migration if they just refund the purchases they can’t carry over, even using in-game currency… you are told, repeatedly, about 7-8 times, the same generic, canned, ape-like, zero-accountability response. Not a response that in any way addresses any point made (especially that *they created this entire situation*), but which simply repeats ad nauseum their drone-like requirement that you give up paid content for the migration to happen. You are pretty convinced that you are not dealing with people, but bots.

          All attempts to contact higher-ups, the ‘thinkers’ at Bethesda (i.e. anyone with basic comprehension and customer service skills, like a supervisor) end in failure. The conversation goes nowhere. You are now cooked. You’ve lost everything you paid for over a few years. They really don’t give a crap.


          This company does not respect its audience.

          This company does not think ahead.

          This company does not admit its mistakes.

          This company does not value Quality.


          This company continues to charge full price for a 7 year old port of a 10 year old game’s system/assets, which even at release in 2015 wasn’t great to look at and was prone to crashes and performance issues.

          But they’ve got time to linger on the development of a sci-fi game that drains all the fun out of sci-fi, because Todd Howard can’t understand the distinction between actually going to the moon as a contemporary human, and running across procedurally generated blandness as a gamer.

          Now we have to wait 7+ more years for another decent Fallout game. And what’s going to happen then?


          You suck, Bethesda.”